The Bender Continues
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The Bender Continues
Ready Player 4
The joystick joy doesn't stop there; remember when the PlayStation 3 introduced us to Blu-ray and the revolutionary concept of free online gaming? We unpack how these game changers and others shifted our gaming priorities as we marched, somewhat reluctantly, into adulthood. You'll be nodding along and chuckling as we contrast the immersive epics of our youth with the pick-up-and-play distractions that now fit into our grown-up lives, all through the lens of our enduring love for this dynamic form of entertainment.
But hold onto your controllers—our chat culminates in a heated bracketology battle, pitting iconic titles against each other to crown the ultimate video game champion. Will Halo's legendary status topple the enchanting world of Zelda? Can Tetris out-stack the competition? Join us for laughs, debates, and a dose of nostalgia as we celebrate the pixels, polygons, and passion that continue to shape our lives and the gaming community at large.
random game that came up when I was looking at this topic. Did you guys ever play runescape? Yes, remember that dude yes, there's a guy on the computer, middle school, yeah, that was like fourth grade to seventh grade I remember that game was yes, it was like super hyped up, but I don't, I don't like no, no one really remembers it like the hype went out and that was that I would tie up my parents phone lines on runescape for hours because we still have dialogue yeah, is that a computer?
James LaGamma:game yeah, yeah, runescape that shit like popped all yes, actually I played line runner.
Ryan Selimos:It was like knights, dragons, all that back in the day.
James LaGamma:Yeah, and you had levels and you could achieve your personal score or whatever.
Ryan Selimos:I remember one summer I got the grades. You're going to have two different conversations. You need to get the premium RuneScape package.
James LaGamma:I remember that was the first game. This is how you're supposed to run podcasts.
Kenny Massa:Keep going, we're talking.
Ryan Selimos:That was the first game that I actually debated on a like paying for something, because you could pay up for like certain things and that you had to pay to go to certain areas.
James LaGamma:Yeah, on the map.
Ryan Selimos:Yeah, that's cool, that game was different, so you guys did not play runescape nah did not, I was outside playing can you?
James LaGamma:like still play that today. Is that a thing? Is that a website? Let's see, let's find out.
Ryan Selimos:I'm gonna go to it. We were also outside playing, so you go to some fucking crazy I just I you never played video games growing up no, not, not like that.
Jonny Strahl:I just played, like I guess, first console.
Kenny Massa:I really remember playing nintendo 64 I remember I had my dad's atari yeah, atari, and uh sega.
Kenny Massa:Yeah, he, he had like the gun for it and again, remember everything's wired back then there's no fucking bluetooth, that wasn't invented yet. And he gave it to me and let me play it and he had like this, this like duck hunting game, and like I really enjoyed it. It was fun, I had a good time, but my creativity as a young child got the best of me. I found scissors. I wanted to be able to take this gun anywhere, so I cut the cord. A whole boy was my father, pissed.
Ryan Selimos:What game was that?
Kenny Massa:This is part of his Atari, like his fucking Atari, which was probably worth a bunch of money now, but that specific piece.
James LaGamma:Was it like an orange gun.
Kenny Massa:I think it was more red and gray but they did have orange ones too, so anyways, I cut the cord.
James LaGamma:I was like, you know I wanted to play cops and robbers and shit.
Kenny Massa:Oh did I piss him off. But my favorite childhood game was space invaders. Fucking could play that game for hours me, my buddy alex bro, it was like the first video game, I think that introduced like the boss levels that in like the other one. That we liked was asteroids loved asteroids it's like they're floating around.
Ryan Selimos:Asteroids are coming like shooting them so Jason Vader's had bosses poor like Mario.
Kenny Massa:I don't know, I just I feel like that was my first introduction to it, so I don't know a space invaders earlier than Mario.
Jonny Strahl:No, yes are we talking like Atari, like night?
James LaGamma:well, obviously yeah, it was on atari. Yeah, so it would probably be yes I think so 70.
Kenny Massa:I think atari was like dig dug type of time I think so, yes, and centipede yeah that's like early, yeah, 1976 or 77, yeah, so I I think it was one of like the first like boss level things that you would shoot all the things and all of a sudden you had this giant alien ship that you had to blow up, and it was. It got harder and harder as time went on. Interesting yeah unless I'm thinking that was the playstation version, which was late years later. I don't know.
James LaGamma:Fuck it, I have fucking no idea these consoles have advanced so much since we were younger, like I just remember remember, I think it was uh, it was like maybe nintendo 64, where you had to like blow into the thing.
Ryan Selimos:You're like to put it in the console so what?
Kenny Massa:there's something satisfying about putting in one of those rather than a fucking CD that you feel like you just break it, you just handle it now.
James LaGamma:It's like it's all downloads now right downloads. But even if you look at like the Nintendo Switch, the thing is like the fucking this big the downloads.
Kenny Massa:I hear that there's a huge problem, like you need massive amounts of storage on these consoles now, like terabytes of fucking storage, because some games, the graphics alone are just it takes up so much space that you can't actually keep all your games on there at once, so you have to offload a game.
James LaGamma:Yeah, you can save all the data behind it somewhere, like maybe an external hard drive, I, I don't know that's and I hear downloading games takes forever too I don't play on the newer consoles, so, but also like the newer consoles, like the nintendo switch is the only one that I've played in recent years, like the, the controller is like this big I think, uh, I remember hearing that so routinely xbox, I think had their release, like their next gen was before playstation came out, their next gen.
Kenny Massa:So, like I think, when that xbox like, uh, what do they call it now? Ty, do you know the, the new xbox, what's called?
Ty Moss:the tower one, I don't know, it's like the s or the one s I.
Kenny Massa:I know the xbox one was still like a flat box and then they came out with the tower. So the tower came out and then the ps5 came out. I heard that xbox strategically decided they are going to release theirs in line with when playstation will be releasing their ps6, and so now there's gonna be a little bit more competition in the market. So, like christmas comes around, that time, what are you buying, one or the other or both? That's a lot of fucking money yeah, I mean the end.
James LaGamma:They're probably I don't know how much is it like a ps5 now?
Ty Moss:like 400 bucks now.
Kenny Massa:Now yeah, what were they when they came out? Like five or six maybe, okay that's actually a little bit, a little bit less than I thought they would be. I thought they might have reached like closer to the grand mark at that point yeah, ps3, I remember that thing, that was hard that was a commodity. It was the first one that came out with like web browsing yeah that.
Jonny Strahl:And then they had the blu-ray. Then they had also like just a bunch and the game was the pixels and whatnot, like it was just a different level.
Kenny Massa:I think that's when video game consoles are trying to change the market a little bit to become more of like a in-home entertainment system, Almost like what Roku and Amazon Firestick and all that stuff started to become If they would have been the ones to do that. Can you imagine?
James LaGamma:They probably would have they probably would.
Ryan Selimos:Preferred gaming system, Xbox or PlayStation? Where are you guys?
James LaGamma:at I'm of a playstation person than xbox I was a playstation 2 growing up.
Kenny Massa:I had an xbox, the original, then I got the 360 and then I thought I was a 360 kid for the longest time, but then the playstation 3 came out. Um, I think personally I'm probably more of a time put into it, maybe more of an Xbox person, if you were to think of it from that point of view. But I think I have more PlayStation games that I've played over time. They're just compatible with both. So I guess it almost doesn't matter. It really comes down to nowadays which console you like, because they only have that game. Like, I would love to play the Spider-Man game, but I don't have a PlayStation. I would love to play the Spider-Man game, but I don't have a PlayStation. Yeah, I would love to play the new Spider-Man.
James LaGamma:What about?
Ryan Selimos:you, I never owned Xbox, I only own PlayStation. So I'll go there, played both, but definitely way more hours on PlayStation, yeah.
Jonny Strahl:John, I jumped back and forth between Xbox and PlayStation. I grew up with a PlayStation, the PlayStation 2. 2, yep, yep, I playstation 3, but more of my friends had xbox. So I wanted to play online all that good stuff. And then that's when I got just obsessed. Xbox 360, call of duty, modern warfare 2 is an ncaa 14. That's all I played. Those are probably the only two video games I really played growing up after like middle school was is 360 the best overall console?
Ryan Selimos:was it the p? Is it ps3, like during our time?
Jonny Strahl:obviously they continue to enhance the 360 come out during the ps3 or just I think 360 came out first I will say, if you compare and I feel like ty could probably answer this question the best and is probably the most versatile, incredible. Wasn't the reason why playstation and their push out of consoles better because of all the extended features they had that xbox didn't have prior to what they are now?
Ty Moss:Yeah, they hit a lot. I remember, yeah, because PS3 was crazy hard to get and it was super expensive. My dad got one right when they came out and I came home from school and I was like you got me a PS3? And he's like, no, that's mine, that's hilarious. That's crazy. But yeah, that had Blu-ray and everything, and the big thing for me was it had online as well. But that was free, you didn't have to pay like Xbox did, you could just play online with your friends.
James LaGamma:Yeah, because they didn't realize what they could do to monetize it. That's kind of what I started to fall off of games, though, is when PS3 came out, when it was just too expensive, and I kind of started to get rid of that part of my like childhood, I fell off going to college like senior high school the last time I played video games now going into high school? I was. I was already done, that was already gone I have to agree with you, kenny.
Kenny Massa:My love and admiration, and hours fell off after ps3.
James LaGamma:Now, granted, like when ps3 launched.
Kenny Massa:Yeah, so I I got one, played the heck out of it, but it's basically once I went to high school, because I think ps3 came out right around high school now. Yes, I did have an xbox 360 and yes, I did play cod throughout high school, definitely. But like, as years kept going and I kept getting older and older, I guess I just grew out of video games and so yeah, I play them and I still love them.
Kenny Massa:Like I'm nostalgic as all hell. Like fucking you put spyro or fucking tony hawk in front of me game over me and lydia. We will play those until they are fucking beat to death yeah I've beat every single one of those games multiple times in my lifetime. Um, I get bored. Now, though, video games that's my biggest problem. I just I'll play them like I get this little nostalgic kick, and then I just I'm like, all right, I have other things I need to do.
James LaGamma:Yeah yeah it's sad because you wish you didn't have other things to do, so you can click whatever, but yeah yeah, yeah just the ranking of priorities at uh. At 30 years old, you can't sit down on the couch playing ps but there's plenty of people that do ps9, whatever the fuck it is. Yeah, there's plenty of people that still do that and yeah, I don't know how power to him.
Kenny Massa:Um I mean, my cousin is fucking. He's amazing at video games. Yeah, uh, if he could probably make it a career I think he would definitely go for it. Um, but uh, kids have been a lot of money. Yeah, the fucking fits used to go to conferences or, I guess, tournaments, I guess would be the right way to put it in Orlando where they had competitions.
Ryan Selimos:I was thinking about that on the ride down with this topic and like you said, kenny at 30, finding the time to do that. But at the end of the day, everyone has what they do to just de-stress, to release, and we've talked about it a lot. We spend three hours watching sports games. Right, we spend a lot of time watching sports where, if we were gamers, we would find time there. So, having both now like for us instead of watch, or for me, I'll speak for instead of watching say yeah, I can sit down and watch sports.
Ryan Selimos:I can't go play games. But maybe if I didn't have that my commitment in you, in wanting to go spend time watching sports or being involved in sports then I would have games as that outlet.
Kenny Massa:What I found myself as far as boredom with games is, if I don't have a storyline or, like I always went, gravitated towards career, you always have like that category in the list, career, online play, that kind of stuff. If I didn't have a career I would get bored with the game. I need to have something that I want to see from point a to point b, like there's an actual end result and then, once it's done, I'll probably never.
James LaGamma:That's why mario kart, for me, was like a short-lived game, like I can play mario kart for like 15 minutes and I'm done because it's like, that's like a social thing.
Kenny Massa:Now it's like we like playing, drink and drive. Try to chug a beer. Um, I've played it in college plenty of times. I've played it outside of college too. I say we.
Jonny Strahl:Oh, on Mario Kart. I don't know what the fuck you were talking about Isn't that what you said.
James LaGamma:Yeah, Mario Kart.
Kenny Massa:But when you said you like playing, drinking driving. I did not understand With Mario Kart.
James LaGamma:Yes, I was going to get to it.
Kenny Massa:I was getting into it, but you guys kept race. You can do it all up front, you can do it all at the end or you can do it throughout the race.
James LaGamma:That's cool. I guess that's fun.
Kenny Massa:It's just a fun little drinking game. That's a very good social game, correct? That's what I was trying to get at until you guys had a lot of confusion and didn't let me explain.
Ryan Selimos:I feel like you could have explained it better.
Kenny Massa:I was getting there, I was getting there, but the confusing faces were confusing me. Sorry to think I was talking about something completely and utterly left out. Oh John, what do you have?
Jonny Strahl:No, I think one thing that kind of not pushed me or drove me away from playing video games outside of time is once they really started focusing on the social side of how you can play and engage with others, because when you brought up like you like the campaigns, you like being able to. Actually that's another way they use I always loved just playing a season, a franchise or a campaign, like beating the game versus almost so much, like going into, like hey, hey, all my connectivity right yeah it just never, ends.
Jonny Strahl:And I feel like these video games are focusing so more on the online community piece that those campaigns, franchises, whatever it is, that's where they're not really trying. And I get like, hey, the storytelling and the technology, the graphics, it's all improved, but the fundamentals, I feel like sometimes, is where these games are missing out. And this is coming from someone who's not a gamer by any means, who's very enthusiastic and will buy a console. When ncaa 25 comes out, that'll probably be the only game I play and I hope it's great, and if it's not, I'll be very disappointed. Um, but yeah, that's that's kind of when I started steering away and the only game I did play that was online was Modern Warfare 2. And that's because all my friends played it.
Kenny Massa:I think it's a strategy play, though, on the game companies. They create the career and they want you to keep playing the game Of course.
Jonny Strahl:Yeah, of course.
Kenny Massa:And then they started leveraging the monetization aspect of okay, pay this to get this faster, or you have to try to do all these fucking crazy tasks to get this, this to get this faster, or you have to try to do all these fucking crazy tasks to get this, and so they realized, in order to extend the life of the game, they had to innovate and go outside of just career and stuff.
James LaGamma:Well, how about this question? I recently read this what do you guys think about? Instead of playing a paying a flat rate for a game, you pay a price per hour that you're playing.
Kenny Massa:Well, they already do that.
James LaGamma:Oh, really yeah.
Kenny Massa:Xbox does it. You can get a subscription and then you just get access to the games. It's like the Gamer Pass or something like that, and you just get access to games because you're playing monthly, and then you don't have to buy them straight out, but are you paying based off of the amount of time that you play? I have amount of time that you play. I have no idea if there's a time allocation.
Jonny Strahl:I just think there's like levels of game pass, but yeah oh well, I would be curious if that's that, if, if you said you saw this like somewhere, yeah, specifically because of the hype around change the well.
Kenny Massa:I believe it's the hype around gta 6 that interesting that came around.
James LaGamma:I don't you know for me, for someone who's not. I hate into gaming like that.
Kenny Massa:I just wouldn't play it it would turn me off for sure. You can never own anything outright anymore.
Jonny Strahl:These days I get it software updates, but fucking I mean, yeah, it's the wild, wild west, for sure.
Kenny Massa:Yeah it's just as heartening, but we don't need to get into that topic. Um, there's some really fucking good games that we all grew up with, for sure. Um, I don't know if you guys just want to start rallying some shit off, because I seem very passionate about it. Lead us off do you remember all the streets? Nfl street, nba street.
James LaGamma:Yes, oh my god, nfl street.
Kenny Massa:The fact that you can create that just obscure characters awesome. Um, obviously we already mentioned tony hawk. We've got spyro, we've got crash bandicoot. That was a good one. Obviously, we already mentioned Tony Hawk. We've got Spyro, we've got Crash Bandicoot.
James LaGamma:That was a good one. No, not big takers on that one. Crash was good. Crash was good. Didn't get excited Donkey Kong.
Kenny Massa:Donkey Kong was good. I'm trying to think what else? I mean Gran Turismo versus Forza.
James LaGamma:I love driving cars, it's the closest thing I'll ever get to driving for speed. Midnight club three. Midnight club, the dub edition let's go.
Kenny Massa:That was cool for speed was a shit. Yeah, love need for speed underground all of them yeah customizing a car was one of the coolest things need for speed was cool.
James LaGamma:I played that a lot when I was when I was younger.
Kenny Massa:Yeah, um, did you guys play middle gear solid at all? That was probably one of the first. It was about the cold war. It's kind of an interesting.
Jonny Strahl:Yeah, that was honestly, I liked that game more than call of duty yeah until again. Call of duty just raised the bar and they kept going. Medal of honor said medal of honor.
James LaGamma:Yeah, play medal of honor you met.
Jonny Strahl:That's not about the cold war medal of honor. That was a good game. Medal of Honor was the war game.
Kenny Massa:Yeah.
Jonny Strahl:I played Medal of Honor.
Kenny Massa:I mean, I don't have my laptop up.
Jonny Strahl:Medal of Honor.
Kenny Massa:I think the player's name was Snake you might be right he always had to sneak around. It was a stealth game. It wasn't really all about Medal of Honor. I've heard about two Medal of Honor.
Jonny Strahl:I've heard about two.
Kenny Massa:So that's why, when you said Metal Gear Solid, I'm thinking Medal of Honor. Was I wrong, jack Sparrow?
Ryan Selimos:Jack Sparrow, I'm pretty sure that was a computer game, johnny Depp, yeah.
James LaGamma:I think it was called Jack Sparrow. Did you ever play the computer game where you?
Kenny Massa:build an attraction. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what the?
James LaGamma:fuck was that called?
Kenny Massa:I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, that was cool and then like a zoo one too.
Ty Moss:Yeah, roller coaster tycoon, yeah Roller coaster tycoon yeah so how's that?
Jonny Strahl:And what's the?
Kenny Massa:zoo one. Do you remember the zoo?
Ty Moss:one Ty Zoo tycoon.
Ryan Selimos:Zoo tycoon. Thank you very much. You're a smart individual.
James LaGamma:Freaking roller coaster tycoon. Wow, steel trap like an elephant. Yeah, jack Sparrow shit.
Ryan Selimos:I know we're on Disney and we're not the biggest Star Wars fans, but Battlefield Battlefront 2.
Ty Moss:I never got into that oh alright, ty that sounds like hell yeah there we go.
Kenny Massa:Battlefront 2 was. Do you remember the original Spider-Man?
Ty Moss:yeah, spider-man was like Xbox.
Kenny Massa:First it wasn't a PS2 platform.
Ryan Selimos:I liked the. I like spider-man 2 doc. Op. Doc. Op version on the ps2 at that time.
Kenny Massa:Better, okay, than the original game well, I think it was the same game, it's just you could play it on either platform. I don't think it was uh, it wasn't isolated to ps2 or playstation, yet that's. I think we played the same game like was uh, actually, I think it was actually after toby mcguireuire's legit storyline, that was the game that I was playing.
James LaGamma:Mortal Kombat was still one of the best.
Kenny Massa:Yeah, that was a great game. Mortal Kombat was good.
James LaGamma:Welcome to Hot Takes, where we talk about debatable topics. Today, we're actually not going to be debating as much, but we're actually going to be doing a bracketology for the best video games of all time.
Jonny Strahl:So, johnny, take it away all right on uh, this uh episode's video game bracketology. We're gonna have a total of 24 video games from all different eras, ages, consoles, etc. Uh, there'll be a total of 12 round. We'll start with 12 rounds and then continue, obviously, to the first place winner. These video games are going to consist of sports, first-person shooter, some strategy and then your typical arcade games, et cetera. So for the first video game, tetris versus Goldeneye, goldeneye 007, which was Nintendo 64.
Kenny Massa:I think you got to go, tetris.
James LaGamma:Tetris. That's a clear win. It's a clean sweep.
Ryan Selimos:What were you going to go with? I said Tetris Everyone said Tetris, we all said Tetris Goldeneye was good, but Tetris, johnny, what do you think? Tetris is an iconic game, come on.
James LaGamma:Did you play Goldeneye? You said a kid that just recently played Tetris, but I think historically, if you're going to think about it.
Kenny Massa:You made a movie off of Tetris 007 was already a movie before they made the game.
Jonny Strahl:The movie argument throw that thing out the window. I was very shocked by that unanimous decision. I'll say that, Ty are you in agreement?
James LaGamma:Ooh.
Ty Moss:I might have had to say GoldenEye Ty babe.
Jonny Strahl:Ty, so you played it on Nintendo 64 originally.
Kenny Massa:Yeah, okay, I just never played it, so I guess that kind of wastes my decision.
Jonny Strahl:That was one of the first they played, are you?
Kenny Massa:for it. Yeah, I mean I'm for it, but it doesn't matter. 3-2. I know.
Jonny Strahl:But yeah, I was golden, alright. Second is going to be the original Wii Sports. Hmm, versus minecraft we sports haven't played so minecraft, just for everyone's awareness, sold over 200 million copies worldwide yeah, it's gonna get.
James LaGamma:We're gonna get killed on that one craft is gonna be a.
Kenny Massa:I suck at minecraft so give me more sweet sports baby personally, I like we sports better, that's another sweet but I think minecraft it's bigger. As far as best video game is going to be the better one in this matchup, okay so two to one.
Ryan Selimos:John minecraft, nope other one would be sports also oh, so three to one, we don't have to get the tie.
Kenny Massa:Wow, I hope we're doing this justice, but I think our older game preferences are probably going to come to play here.
Ryan Selimos:They will, they will.
Kenny Massa:It's probably going to be some disagreements in the comments.
Jonny Strahl:We tried to make it a little bit of a balance.
Kenny Massa:Let's just say that there's probably going to be games that we don't even know about too. That should have been on this list that we didn't put on there absolutely.
Jonny Strahl:There was a few where, uh, I could have called a couple of our gamers and they probably could have gave us a better idea. Okay, but uh. Third, one of the most iconic games, halo, originally on the xbox just quick, quick on halo.
Kenny Massa:I remember the old days when xbox came out. You could link xbox Xboxes and it was when the Halo happened and people were like cross rooms, there's wires going all over the place. It never worked, but then it did work and it was really awesome. This was all before Xbox Live and all that shit.
Ryan Selimos:Is it a TV series or movie for Halo that's coming out?
Jonny Strahl:Yeah, it is.
Kenny Massa:I think it's a movie. I can't know if people are. It's kind of shit.
Ryan Selimos:Yeah, oh, I heard people are not happy with it, Ty. What's the opinions?
Ty Moss:I mean, everything you like about the game is not in the show. Okay.
Jonny Strahl:We know where Ty's leaning on this one.
Kenny Massa:Sorry for the sidebar, I just had to mention that. Yeah, no, it's fair.
Jonny Strahl:No, you're good, so arguably one of the best games of all time the Legend of Zelda, ocarina of Time. This is a first round matchup.
Ryan Selimos:Yes, it is. Oh my, it's my childhood against my teen years.
James LaGamma:Yeah, it is.
Ryan Selimos:Fuck.
James LaGamma:I didn't own either, so I went to friends' houses to play both of them. I would say Halo. So just because it got, it was better graphically maybe.
Kenny Massa:Do you have any stats on it, Johnny?
Jonny Strahl:So Zelda was created in 1998, obviously for Nintendo 64. It sold over roughly 8 million copies worldwide, Zelda. But it was one of the first real.
James LaGamma:But how many copies did Halo, oh, halo.
Jonny Strahl:Halo crushed, halo changed the game.
James LaGamma:Yeah, I mean, it was like so.
Kenny Massa:Zelda's like a pioneer, but then Halo, I feel like, changed the game and then first person shooters became like some of the greatest fucking games of all yeah, which led into like COD yeah, yeah, yeah, so like you don't get that without Halo, in my opinion. But then Zelda is one of the greatest of all greats, Pioneer.
Ryan Selimos:You don't get video games without Zelda.
Kenny Massa:Well, I think it's this one first Pong.
James LaGamma:Yeah.
Kenny Massa:Boop Pong this one's tough, just to preface to my outlook on video games. James, you keep derailing.
Ryan Selimos:Just pick one, damn it. You got one to one, I'll go Halo.
Kenny Massa:Oh, okay, we got two Halos Two Halos one.
Ryan Selimos:Zelda, zelda, zelda Tie.
Jonny Strahl:Tie.
Ryan Selimos:Tie breaker.
Ty Moss:I'm not a big.
Ryan Selimos:Zelda guy.
Ty Moss:I'm sorry.
Ryan Selimos:You were supposed to say Zelda, so he could break the tie. There wasn't a tie to be broken yet. It was two to one, no it was two to Halo.
Jonny Strahl:He said Halo.
Kenny Massa:I said Halo, Halo, Halo.
Jonny Strahl:Zelda, zelda, all right, you didn't say Zelda.
Ryan Selimos:Yeah, he did.
Kenny Massa:Ryan, where are?
Ryan Selimos:you bro, I'm going fucking crazy when the fuck are you?
Jonny Strahl:So, tyke, you're more into games obviously. Like, really, yeah, I'm kind of upset, to be honest.
Ty Moss:I'm sorry why I just can't get into the. Graphics I don't know Any sort of game where it's like all right, here's the whole world, go do something. I just get sidetracked and I don't. I can't finish it, I can't finish it.
Jonny Strahl:Do you guys remember?
Ty Moss:So don't, isn't that?
Jonny Strahl:crazy, though, that that game, with what you just said an open map, one of the first in its time created a lot of what the future games are that still have challenges, by the way, that's true.
Ty Moss:But also. But Halo did the same sort of thing with the aiming like the, not auto aim, but like the aim assist. That was like you can like. It was hard as shit to play with a first person shooter on a controller before Halo.
Jonny Strahl:Listen, it's technology, it's the times, it was 1990s, like geez so it's still good.
Ty Moss:I know I know people who love, love that and all newer ones, but I can't, I can't, I just can't do it I'm heartbroken that this isn't even getting to the second round.
Jonny Strahl:All right, so we're gonna go to the fourth. We've got. I combine these guitar hero, garage band versus the og, one of the greatest computer games of all time, the Sims Ooh.
James LaGamma:Sims I like.
Kenny Massa:The Sims Guitar Hero. Are you kidding me, guitar Hero.
Ryan Selimos:Sims Give me the Sims Guitar Hero.
James LaGamma:Guitar Hero was cool, but after a while it got boring.
Ryan Selimos:I played the same song 70 times. What was your favorite part of the Sims Kenny?
Kenny Massa:Guitar Hero was boring. I play the same song 70 times. What was your favorite part of the?
Ryan Selimos:Sims Kenny, guitar Hero, was boring the same song Hot tub time.
Kenny Massa:The whole part of Guitar Hero.
James LaGamma:We can't keep our Building our life. Brian, we gotta move on.
Kenny Massa:I'm well aware, johnny, give us your fucking pick.
Jonny Strahl:I just want to keep it. Even so, I'm gonna go with.
Kenny Massa:Which means he doesn't care about either, but I think he does have one that he likes.
Jonny Strahl:I just want Ty's opinion. Ty, what are you going with?
Ty Moss:I play Guitar Hero to this day. I still have Guitar Hero and I play it all the time.
Kenny Massa:Next time we come in Ty, can you bring it?
Ty Moss:I sure can. I can put it up on the TV.
Jonny Strahl:I was going to go with the Sims Kenny't dude we're just said sims, didn't you're the sims too? No, I was we, I was guitar hero yeah, I had the sims and then he was the tiebreaker. No, three oh sims, sims, oh one, two three to one, johnny, my bad, my bad.
Ryan Selimos:Sims, let's go, baby, let's go, that's my bad, my bad, my bad damn. And why do we love this?
Jonny Strahl:I feel so much better now. Okay, so this is one of the best games. That's like newer and you can see a bunch of streamers, vloggers, all playing this game Red Dead Redemption 2 Versus the OG. Super Mario 64 Super Mario.
Ryan Selimos:Not even close.
Ty Moss:Not even close.
Kenny Massa:I know how much people like Red Dead, but when you put them up against a fucking mario like mario come on all day ty.
Jonny Strahl:What do you think?
Ty Moss:I. I think video games have a specific ability in like compared to other forms of art to like. Nothing can tell you a story. You can't follow through us like a 60 hour long story like you could with a movie. It's the closest thing that compares to a book. I mean, mario changed everything. I guess, but if it's preference, I'd probably pick Red Dead.
James LaGamma:But if you look at, Gentleman's Suite.
Ryan Selimos:We're not looking, it's a pick and move.
Kenny Massa:It's a pick and move.
Jonny Strahl:No, it's not Alright, so we've got the OG, probably what our parents played a lot of Pac-Man in the arcades Versus backyard sports backyard baseball, backyard football.
James LaGamma:How would you do this? These are not first-round match-ups. That's the toughest one of them.
Kenny Massa:I'm going to get roasted for this. But I'm going Pac-Man primarily because I never played those. Okay, that's fair. I don't think you're going to get roasted for that. I mean Pac-Man's good, but I think a lot of people have some allegiance to the backyard sports.
Ryan Selimos:I'm going to go Pac-Man, pedro, whatever his fucking name is. I'm going Pac-Man because are some better sport ones on this list coming? There's got to be Now. Backyard sports are fantastic, but there's got to be some more. I'm banking on it, pac-man.
James LaGamma:I'm going Pac-Man because I played it more. I definitely have played a lot of backyard sports, but Pac-Man is like the OG it doesn't get old, even as old as it gets.
Kenny Massa:We have a Pac-Man arcade set up in our break room at work.
James LaGamma:It's fucking set up in our break room at work. I just can't believe it. Every time I heat up food the table one where you have a little- joystick, it's a legit yeah, you can play other stuff I didn't mean to go down that road.
Kenny Massa:Are you guys seeing a?
Ryan Selimos:trend. We've done two Bracketology. Some of these first round matchups are bullshit.
Kenny Massa:They get harder. It's happening again. They're randomized.
Jonny Strahl:Go, go, go, go, go, go go. All right, we've got All right, so we're going with Pac-Man Ty. What do you think?
Ty Moss:I could go either way.
Jonny Strahl:All right, we've got Some of these are going to be more of like as a collective okay. Just want to set that expectation. We got Call of Duty versus the Madden series. Madden series Call of Duty.
Ryan Selimos:Because Madden has gotten worse and not improved in the later years.
James LaGamma:But he said it collected. He said the brand as a whole.
Ryan Selimos:I'm a sports guy, I'm saying Call of Duty.
Kenny Massa:I think EA Sports got a lot of flack for how Madden is, so I think they weren't able to adopt Now. Granted, cod has also gone through its Activision versus other stuff, but anyways, I'm going'm going cod come hot it is, that's because you're voting cod as well.
Ty Moss:Modern warfare okay, see, that's where I'm I mean days of my life have I given the modern warfare 2 it's insane. That's my high school right there that's it, that's literally.
Ryan Selimos:That is our high school.
Kenny Massa:Holy shit. I used to make YouTube videos on us sniping people and fucking cod. Yeah, it was nuts.
Jonny Strahl:All right, Bioshock, which is a big game. I heard about that one. Ty is shaking his head. He knows. I used to watch Bill Walsh play this in college for hours versus, which I think is all going to relate with us even better. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater.
Kenny Massa:Tony Hawk, tony Hawk, tony Hawk, tony Hawk, tony Hawk, Tony Hawk, tony Hawk's going to win the whole thing for me.
Ryan Selimos:Tony Hawk Bioshock for Ty.
Ty Moss:I don't know, it's hard, it's a tough one.
James LaGamma:Tony Hawk. I agree with.
Kenny Massa:Tony.
Ryan Selimos:Hawk.
Kenny Massa:Can't play it. Bioshock.
Jonny Strahl:It fell off a cliff but they made a comeback with 1 and 2 coming back, the original Pokemon on the Game Boy versus Gran Turismo, gran Turismo.
Kenny Massa:Pokemon Revolutionized the car industry.
James LaGamma:Pokemon my first game ever. Bulbasaur Game Boy.
Ryan Selimos:Color, game Boy Color.
James LaGamma:What color did you have had?
Kenny Massa:uh like blue it was like teal, yes, yeah, I had teal, yeah, or whatever it was, I just don't know how many car rides did game boy get you through long road trips?
James LaGamma:I couldn't even read when that came out.
Kenny Massa:I remember asking my mom- to understand what gran turismo has done in sim racing.
James LaGamma:It's probably one of the most sales of all time. I don't know Pokemon's pretty up there, I know.
Kenny Massa:Pokemon's big, but I'm telling you right now the original Pokemon.
Ryan Selimos:we're on to the next one.
Kenny Massa:Well, no, that's two to one right now, johnny.
Jonny Strahl:I'm going Gran Turismo.
Kenny Massa:Thank you, this is tough.
Ty Moss:I still have my Game Boy.
Ryan Selimos:There he is, baby.
Ty Moss:Let's go, I also played.
Kenny Massa:Gran Turismo with my dad a lot.
Ty Moss:I have those tracks memorized.
Ryan Selimos:Which one's his own, because I just got excited. Can you please pull the plug?
Ty Moss:I gotta say Pokemon. Really I was close. Pokemon got to say Pokemon.
Ryan Selimos:Ah, yes, yes.
Ty Moss:Really.
Ryan Selimos:I was close.
Kenny Massa:I just got really happy.
James LaGamma:I remember when they came out with that Pokemon game on your phone.
Kenny Massa:I mean, game Boy isn't Game Boy without Pokemon to be fair 100%.
Jonny Strahl:So I understand Pokemon has done a lot, true? So we're going Pokemon.
Ryan Selimos:That's right. Say bye-bye, Gran Turismo Fuck off.
Kenny Massa:I can't believe that just fell off the cliff, that is, should have been. Bioshock, just riding right into the sunset.
Jonny Strahl:I don't like that at all. That's not fair. I don't like it at all.
Kenny Massa:Alright, I hate bracketology.
Jonny Strahl:I love it, gets it going Assassin's Creed versus FIFA, fifa, fifa.
Ryan Selimos:FIFA, FIFA, FIFA.
Kenny Massa:I like FIFA? I do, but I think Assassin's Creed has taken the market way more by storm. Fifa was college For us. I like FIFA, but I also just I just if you're thinking about the general gamer I think a lot of general gamers have played practically all games, but I just don't think that they like they would play FIFA too much. So I think that more general gamer would like the assassin's creed. I don't know why I'm having to prove my point here. I should just pick and move on. But Kenny assassin's creed. Okay.
James LaGamma:What'd you say?
Ryan Selimos:Right.
James LaGamma:FIFA for sure.
Ryan Selimos:So you said what? There too, there is's assassin's creed. I'm gonna go fifa. Attaboy, attaboy ty, you're the breaker, I'm back with the assassin's creed yes hey dude yes, fifa adam vincent, I'm sorry, fifa is great I FIFA.
Kenny Massa:Actually, one of my favorites was actually winning 11-7. Have you ever remembered that one? It's an older one. No, yeah, it was a rival to FIFA for a while. Okay, but FIFA definitely was better.
Jonny Strahl:All right, all right, we've got NCAA versus UFC.
Ryan Selimos:NCAA, yeah, ncaa, not even close.
James LaGamma:NCAA Not even close NCAA. As we look towards the release.
Jonny Strahl:It's football right NCAA football.
James LaGamma:Against what though?
Jonny Strahl:UFC.
James LaGamma:Oh, NCAA. As much as I like UFC, NCAA was around for a long time. That shit was awesome.
Ryan Selimos:Talk about how many all-nighters did you pull to create a dynasty in NCAA?
James LaGamma:Yeah, NCAA it's zero and that's probably because we played that a lot more.
Ryan Selimos:Ufc, when did it's zero, and that's probably because we played that a lot more like you see, when do they really come out?
James LaGamma:how many times do we create ourselves in ncaa on a college team? Yeah, yeah, play that um.
Jonny Strahl:The last one's gonna be grand theft auto versus probably one of the og original computer games 1970s the oregon trail gta, gta yeah, I was figuring that GTA can take it.
James LaGamma:GTA is a fucking.
Ryan Selimos:NCAA is my pick, to take it.
James LaGamma:GTA is good though.
Jonny Strahl:I'm surprised you didn't put Snake on there. There was a bunch.
Kenny Massa:There's so many good games.
Jonny Strahl:The Last of Us was one of the, which I think it ties like us to one All the ones tied like us. Yeah, alright. So we ties like that's the one. All the ones tied like that are like yeah, all right, so we're moving to the second round. We've got Tetris versus Wii Sports Tetris, tetris, tetris, okay.
James LaGamma:Tetris, listen Tetris, that's the fastest.
Ryan Selimos:That's an OG Twice now. Yeah, it's been.
Jonny Strahl:Halo versus the Sims Halo.
Kenny Massa:I think Halo is a bigger one. Yeah.
Jonny Strahl:Yeah, halo, we're all on the Sims. What would you have gone, ty?
Ty Moss:Yeah, probably Halo still.
Jonny Strahl:Yeah, sick.
Ryan Selimos:Love the Sims though.
Jonny Strahl:Super Mario versus Pac-Man.
Ryan Selimos:Ooh Battle of the Titans, super Mario.
James LaGamma:That's a tough one, super mario. Just because I think you can play it longer and it's like I got a story to it mario, I can get. I know pac-man's good, but I know, you're right, that's a tough one I got to save that fucking princess. Yeah.
Jonny Strahl:All right, we've got Call of Duty versus Tony Hawk Pro Skate.
Ryan Selimos:Tony Hawk, tony Hawk, tony Hawk, tony Hawk. Call of Duty. Call of Duty. I love Tony.
Jonny Strahl:Hawk Call of Duty. Call of Duty, you got Tony Hawk. Fuck yeah, I'm going Tony Hawk, let's go, you're.
Ryan Selimos:Fuck yeah, I'm going tony hawk, you're just saying that, no, no, this is a tough one for me. This is a very, very tough one for me.
Jonny Strahl:I love cod, he loves a lot of time with the cop, but way more time I like
Ty Moss:I. I played skate more than I played tony let's go, baby.
Kenny Massa:Oh, I didn't know I'm sorry I didn't know he was a poser skate didn't have he was a poser.
Ty Moss:Skate didn't have the outfits that you could, all the cheat codes that you could do in Tony Hawk, that was my jam.
Kenny Massa:It was great. You could be Iron man. It's gone.
Ty Moss:Yeah, like I said, the days of my life ticked off, so I'm going to go with Hawk, sorry.
Jonny Strahl:Okay, all right, we've got Pokemon. Game Boy Versus NCAA, ncaa, pokemon, pokemon, ncaa Fucking he's going to go with Pokemon.
Ty Moss:Oh my God.
Jonny Strahl:NCAA ain't going to make it. Oh my God Out of the second round. Fatality. So Ty, I actually removed Mortal Kombat, Mortal Kombat was a fucking baller game. Yeah, I removed that one. I should have kept it.
James LaGamma:I'm going to replace it with that. You could have a massive bracketology.
Jonny Strahl:What sports games are left? Oh dude, it was so bad we knocked out FIFA and NCAA, yeah, and no NFL Blitz. We've got Assassin's Creed versus Grand Theft Auto.
Ryan Selimos:GTA, gta, gta, gta.
Jonny Strahl:For sure. This is ridiculous. Alright, so in our final six we got Tetris, halo, super Mario, call of Duty, pokemon and GTA. Who do we have to guess One through four? Final two we got Tetris versus Halo.
James LaGamma:Tetris.
Kenny Massa:Halo.
James LaGamma:We have our first vote against Tetris.
Ryan Selimos:I'm going to stick with Tetris.
Jonny Strahl:I'm going to go with Halo. I haven't gone with Halo once today.
Ty Moss:Ty, I'm going Halo. Yay, sorry, tetris.
James LaGamma:That's a tough one though I mean they get difficult as they continue to move.
Jonny Strahl:All right, we've got Super Mario versus Call of Duty.
Ryan Selimos:Super Mario Call of Duty.
Kenny Massa:Those fucking suck.
Ryan Selimos:Oh, this one's hard, yeah, it gets so much harder every time that's the point the early one. Some of the early rounds are fucking tough some of them yeah in super mario.
Kenny Massa:Can I, are we including mario kart? And like do you see anything?
James LaGamma:mario property or is?
Jonny Strahl:it just super because cod has a bunch of games so like do I get to go more, mario I think that my decision that makes you all right. So when I think of call of duty, I think of calling because like modern warfare 2 that's like a favor for me, so I go with that you also have uh, what's the other?
Kenny Massa:mario game that's really popular too sunshine no no, no, I. I think a lot of other characters come into play on it, right? Isn't it a Mario game?
James LaGamma:Maybe I'm going somewhere else. I just need to make my pick.
Kenny Massa:Mario Kart's good, I'm going Mario on this one. Then, johnny, it's down to you to break the you said Mario.
Ty Moss:I went Mario so it's 2-1.
Kenny Massa:Cod's 1. Sorry to detour one Cod's one.
Ty Moss:Sorry to detour, smash isn't on this list.
Jonny Strahl:Smash Bros is not on this list. It was kind of part of the Isn't that Mario Mario kind of odds. That's where I was going. That's where I was going Super Smash Bros.
James LaGamma:I thought was Mario. Oh, that's a great one. That's under the Mario. Property is my opinion.
Kenny Massa:So that's why I'm going Mario. If you're going all Mario properties, I like Cod, all right, all right. So who wins? Because you have to pick between Cod or Mario it doesn't matter what I got, it matters what you got 2-1 right now Johnny's going to pick the ties I know.
Jonny Strahl:Tiebreaker. I just I'm going to go. Cod Boom, Is it 2-2? No, it's 3-1. Is it 2-2?
James LaGamma:No it's 3-1. No, it's 2-2.
Kenny Massa:No, it's 2-2. I went.
James LaGamma:Mario Mario Cod.
Kenny Massa:Cod.
Ryan Selimos:Come on, get with it. I went Cod Mario.
Kenny Massa:Oh fuck, god damn it Get with the program Ty, let's go Okay wait, wait, wait. So Smash Bros isn't. That's not Mario, Is it not under the Mario property?
Ty Moss:Because if that is, then I might have to lean, but if it's, I'm thinking like platformer, like the 2D platformer, mario's, all of those the days, remember the days you gave, the years that you gave to. God, but it fell off so hard. If yeah, I'll wait for the final decision on where Smash Bros lies.
Kenny Massa:Do-do-do-do-do-do Smash Bros Lies. It's not strictly considered a Mario game, boom. Because, it basically has everyone from Nintendo, 40 different franchises, including Mario and Kirby. I always thought it was because of the bros part. I thought it was under the Mario property. I guess I'm wrong.
James LaGamma:I'll take it so.
Ty Moss:No, that was a spin-off thing, then I gotta go COD. I guess I'll go COD Nice.
Jonny Strahl:Alright, then we've got Pokemon versus GTA GTA.
Kenny Massa:GTA Pokemon, the hours of spent trying to evolve Pokemon I never played a single minute of GTA Wasn't allowed to. Fair enough, you're right.
James LaGamma:I was only allowed to play sports games.
Jonny Strahl:You didn't go to your friend's house to play.
Kenny Massa:GTA I was only allowed to play. I was, I was, I was, I was, I was I was, I was.
James LaGamma:I was, I was, I was.
Jonny Strahl:I was, I was.
James LaGamma:I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was.
Ryan Selimos:I was, I was, I was, I was, I was.
Jonny Strahl:I was, I was, I was, I was, I was. I'm going to go GTA Okay then it's done, Boom Ty.
Kenny Massa:What have you gone with?
Jonny Strahl:GTA.
Kenny Massa:All right, cool, I don't feel bad then.
Jonny Strahl:All right. So we ended up with three in the last round, so we're just going to swing it. All right. We've got Halo, cod and GTA. How do we have three?
Kenny Massa:left.
Jonny Strahl:How do we end up with three? I have zero idea, but we're going to go with these.
Kenny Massa:It's because we went 12 instead of 16. I thought we started with 20. Yeah, we did.
Jonny Strahl:Yes, that is 100% why we took out two. So, we got three. What are they again? Halo, All freaking shooting games. Halo, Call of Duty and Grand.
Kenny Massa:Theft Auto GTA, I'll have to go with Call of Duty then, I guess. Ah, shit.
Ryan Selimos:Here we go again GTA baby.
Jonny Strahl:All right this. So you got GTA. You got GTA. You got Call of Duty. I got Call of Duty. I'm going with Call of Duty, Ty, you are literally breaking this for us.
Kenny Massa:Get about the years If he goes.
Ty Moss:Halo, then what the fuck happens there?
Jonny Strahl:So I guess, he's going to go, halo, actually.
Ty Moss:Did one of them get a buy, or is it?
Jonny Strahl:Yeah, we gave Halo a buy just because you guys like Halo and wanted to pick them over freaking all the other good ones.
Kenny Massa:We cut Halo out because Halo had a good bracket to run through Halo just dropped, so you have to choose between COD or GTA Halo over the Sims, get out of here.
Ryan Selimos:Cod or GTA Ty, forget about the years of life devoted to COD. Now Remember about the downfall.
Ty Moss:Damn COD, god gta, something else that's like. That is like the open world game that I can play, like I can play that with my friends, we could all hop on and yeah, you couldn't play cod with your friends not in the same way. Not, it doesn't my friends suck at cod.
Kenny Massa:That's because your friends suck.
Ty Moss:I got to say GTA, gta.
James LaGamma:Oh, GTA is a winner. Let's go, baby.
Kenny Massa:Theft Auto takes it for the best video. Are you fucking mental?
Jonny Strahl:That's what's wrong with society right now.
Kenny Massa:We got GTA as the best video.
Jonny Strahl:This is why I don't, I almost didn't even play it.
Kenny Massa:This is why I don't like Bracketology, because I don't think they're seeded correctly. Number one that's the point of it though I get it's random, but I hate the fucking end result.
Jonny Strahl:It sucks. Well, we got three randoms, and I mean three iconic games, I mean Call of Duty. How Halo made it this far is ridiculous.
James LaGamma:But you guys like Halo. That's cool, all right.
Jonny Strahl:So Grand Theft Auto which there's a new game coming out.
Kenny Massa:What A couple years? Is it five or six? I think it's six, I don't know. I think it's six. I think GTA 5 has already been out.
James LaGamma:Six, I think, is the one that's coming out now.
Jonny Strahl:Grand Theft Auto. Wow, what a Vice City they had like San Jose. San Andreas, san Andreas, yeah, vice City. They made a movie out of it.
James LaGamma:Vice City was like my first kind of like introduction to that, I think.
Jonny Strahl:Yeah, and then you became a different person, because it's a crazy game.
James LaGamma:It was crazy, all right. Well those are the winners. There we have it.
Ryan Selimos:There's a couple of new games. I just haven't played yet, but I hear that you know I've never played fortnight splinter, remember that one, yeah so fortnight never played. It. Is it all that it's hyped up to be? I mean, I know that's a thing for kids now a lot of us don't play, but I just I don't see it.
Kenny Massa:I think what was big was because they came out with it for free, yeah, and then it blew up from there now it's like a social and cultural ty, you got anything for us on fortnight.
Ryan Selimos:We just old kind of complaining, or is it I?
Ty Moss:rated it. I mean I, I I play games to hang out with my friends. So if they're like, that's what they're gonna play, I'll play, but I don't.
Jonny Strahl:I don't enjoy it okay, yeah it's uh, my nephew and niece play it. They're obsessed.
Kenny Massa:Yeah, it's crazy I played this snowboarding game that I just fucking loved.
Jonny Strahl:Ssx tricky nintendo or is that play?
Kenny Massa:it was xbox.
Jonny Strahl:I played it.
Kenny Massa:I think there's uh not that one, but definitely my I played a lot with, with the guys I grew up with, alex and sean and um, one of our funniest uh like childhood memories was at the end credits of ssx. Tricky, yeah, the girl that they went after like they modeled the character after goes ssx. Oh, I thought this was sex and we love that line. It's been something we always call back to when we, when we see each other.
Ryan Selimos:But uh, love that game. My childhood memory with video games is my. You guys all met him at my wedding, but my boy, fabian. Um, we would play ncaa. We would start a dynasty we each. I guess you could do it where you could do a two-player dynasty and we'd be on different teams and we would start it at 10 o'clock at night and we'd make our game against each other the last game of the season and we would just spend all night playing like we'd watch each other play, just to play each other the all-nighter aspect of all video games and friendship.
Jonny Strahl:Yes, unbelievable.
Kenny Massa:Like underrated for sure I prefer the time when they didn't have online play for sure. Yeah, because that can rot like to play all night long trying to stay up, hopped up on mountain dew and you're with each other.
James LaGamma:You're with each other in the physical same location, like that's what.
Kenny Massa:That's what sleepovers were you're Dew and you're with each other.
James LaGamma:You're with each other in the physical same location, like that's what sleepovers were yeah, you're sitting there and you're all like, and then, like, you're planning your next day like the whole day that you're going to do next and like it doesn't have to be video games like that.
Kenny Massa:Back in the day it was, you played video games all night and it was really fun. You fucking passed out. You definitely didn't make it all night, and then you wake up like at 12 o'clock the next day and you're out there riding around on your bike and doing a bunch of stupid shit, hood rat stuff with your friends. I mean, those were the days, the days.
Ryan Selimos:Those fucking 90s and 2000s man Fuck. Four of us are just sitting in that nostalgia right now.
Ty Moss:I remember sleepovers Halo sleepovers that we played so much I would fall asleep and my dreams would just be.
Ryan Selimos:Halo, that's awesome. Hell yeah, very good, would just be that's awesome.
Kenny Massa:Oh, yeah, very good. It was really cool when games started to come out with the uh hardware that you could use with it. So, like new tar, hero is probably the most knowledgeable one. But uh, do you guys remember when dance, dance, revolution yeah, it was at the arcade, but then they came out with the mats yeah you plug it in the fucking PlayStation 2. That was fucking cool. I loved doing that.
Jonny Strahl:What was the sibling Do?
Kenny Massa:you remember when we came out?
James LaGamma:Yeah, so then the motion stuff started catching up, which is now Nintendo.
Kenny Massa:Yep, I've seen the games where they're playing songs and they're trying to cut something. Nintendo Switch is pretty sweet. Yeah, Nintendo Wii was dope.
Jonny Strahl:It was really cool because I was also during the time when there was that race with the other consoles and then we came out half the price and it was like the first thing.
James LaGamma:That was like virtual ar ish, yeah, like they changed the game with that and you know what? No one really. Is there an element of that with xbox or playstation? They?
Jonny Strahl:try. They had that with the controller and stuff.
James LaGamma:Xbox came out with a camera at one point.
Jonny Strahl:Yeah they all said that it looked like a bar, like a sound bar, but it never took off. But I mean, now you got the whatever the heck they're called. Playstation has VR now.
Ty Moss:Oh yeah, that's right.
Kenny Massa:We do have VR.
James LaGamma:That's like a whole different level.
Kenny Massa:That's the thing I was saying with the slices.
Jonny Strahl:Well, that's where they're moving. That's where the world's going.
Kenny Massa:Well, ryan has his fucking take on that, all right.
Jonny Strahl:So your mind is like, hey, why don't you go out in the backyard?
James LaGamma:or on the street and do those motions, and then I see the people outside.
Ryan Selimos:I remember we were on vacation and in the middle of the park they just got the helmet on In the middle of the fucking helmet just doing whatever the park. They just got the helmet on in the middle of doing whatever the hell they were doing in their virtual reality?
Kenny Massa:I don't know. Well, you're talking about virtual reality, but that's what we're talking about I understand that, but we're also talking about how video games are fucking awesome and you're like go out and play.
Ryan Selimos:It's like they're the best of both worlds here, kid you.
James LaGamma:Video games played a special part in your fucking. They did so. You can't say it's just gone to a level. I think it's crossed the line. In my opinion, right, it's crossed the line for right yeah, which is like understandable.
Kenny Massa:It is understandable I guess who knows where I I always I listened to my dad as he grew up and video games became a thing. Like he came, he grew up in the area of era of video games actually starting and so he saw everything go and he's like I can't wait for the moment when I can actually put on a VR headset and it actually feels like I'm in this game and like I don't know if we're officially there yet, but that was one thing he always wanted to do. So I I kind of. I guess that's where I disagree with you like I think that's just the next step in video games is to be more in the actual game. I'm not disagreeing with you in the fact that people need to go outside and do stuff, but if you're going to play a video game, why not elevate it to that level of actually feeling like you're part of the game?
Ryan Selimos:I just see it going to that, literally that movie ready, player one and the whole like.
Jonny Strahl:That's funny.
James LaGamma:That's where it's headed.
Ryan Selimos:Hey at least they're on a treadmill, I mean their whole world is fucking virtual and the real world is.
Kenny Massa:I mean that's already happening today. Anyway, I know A lot of people are just invested in the video games.
Ty Moss:It's fine.
Kenny Massa:And, honestly, some made a career out of it. It's great. People need their escape. That's why you watch sports for hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours again I say the line's been crossed where it turns from an escape until you're full on reality and who knows how far it'll go.
James LaGamma:Yeah, it's still.
Jonny Strahl:It's still a whole, we'll see it's a whole other world, I mean remember when the, the pandemic hit and esports took off with like the actual video games and like people driving, like the cars and stuff like that, and it was aired on like these real televisions on a real cable, like that was nuts and it took off. And video games took off that way like like league of legend, like all that stuff. It was crazy.
Jonny Strahl:I remember putting on the, the tv and I think it was like espn2, and I was at home and we literally thought we were watching a real like formula one race for a second and it took like about 30, 35 seconds to realize yo this is like a a a video game going on and the people are driving in the real things Like it's crazy.
Kenny Massa:Do you, uh, do you recall the great, big, beautiful tomorrow ride in magic kingdom? The one that's like a carousel?
James LaGamma:yes, so that that's how it ends is like they're playing the video games and the grandma gets on there's like oh yeah, I shot him the fuck down and he's just cursing and obviously it's disney, but still you get where I was going.
Kenny Massa:It's. It's just funny because that's kind of like what you said, like it's getting insane, like where we've gone so far with these video games and stuff, but it's cool yeah I mean there's, there's still people that play computer video games. Actually, there's some people that say that that's superior than the consoles, the computer, the gamers yeah, for sure, yeah like I mean you're talking about back in the day when, like modern, not world of warcraft was big club penguin might have been another penguin was that?
James LaGamma:was. That was a great one, right? Yes, I kind of remember that I don't know you were on there to talk to Jakes but you were on there Freaking AI.
Jonny Strahl:That's what it was for Wow. I think that's why a lot of Clearly my priorities were different.
Kenny Massa:I thought so.
Ryan Selimos:I don't know what else are you doing on the club?
Jonny Strahl:Anglin, you're playing the game.
James LaGamma:Ryan was there for different games. Sorry, mama Salimos. Oh jeez.
Kenny Massa:But no, I think computer games have, or computers have been becoming more superior because I think their hardware is just generally better. You can pack more into a giant desktop than you can in a console. Dylan plays it now. He gave me his Xbox.
James LaGamma:He's like I don't need it, I go play on, play cod on this and I'm like I don't know how I feel about having the buttons and not a controller, but I think you can also connect the controller I don't know computers are interesting educate us in the comments, let us know what, what your favorite console is, or where you think the entire industry of video game kind of world, or or maybe even VR as a whole, as that takes over some of the video game market, where you think it's going to go. We'd love to hear your thoughts, because there's we're probably not the people that are deepest in the industry. So until then, the better continues.
